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Dogfights are a game format supported at Planets.nu and created by Talespin. It is a short-format game, usually taking 15-20 turns to complete. There are 8 players and 60 planets, with the "top 4 players advance" win condition. The format is quite popular. It was created by Talespin for his private tournament, but it was included in Planets.nu's League short-format games. In these games there is no diplomacy allowed, no communication between players, no renaming ships and no giving away ships. League Dogfight games only support Standard (as of July, 2020), but Talespin's private tournaments have used Campaign in its season 3 tournament. | Dogfights are a game format supported at Planets.nu and created by Talespin. It is a short-format game, usually taking 15-20 turns to complete. There are 8 players and 60 planets, with the "top 4 players advance" win condition. The format is quite popular. It was created by Talespin for his private tournament, but it was included in Planets.nu's League short-format games. In these games there is no diplomacy allowed, no communication between players, no renaming ships and no giving away ships. League Dogfight games only support Standard (as of July, 2020), but Talespin's private tournaments have used Campaign in its season 3 tournament. | ||
Players can play any race, though in Talespin's tournaments there have been some restrictions. For season 2 (Standard), players could only play a race | Players can play any race, though in Talespin's tournaments there have been some restrictions. For season 2 (Standard), players could only play a race once. In season 3 (Campaign), players could play a single race twice. This was partly done because campaign advantages are expensive to unlock for many races. | ||
===Short Format Rules=== | |||
Dogfights use the [[Short Format]] rules. This alters some races slightly for better balance on small maps. | |||
= How to Play Dogfights = | = How to Play Dogfights = | ||
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* Fascists | * Fascists | ||
* Rebel | * Rebel | ||
Other races can win, but they are less likely, and not favored for competitive play. One | Other races can win, but they are less likely, and not favored for competitive play. They should generally be avoided. | ||
* Evil Empire | |||
which | One untested possibility for competitive gameplay (especially Campaign) is: | ||
* Evil Empire (which takes first place sometimes) | |||
However, not many players have played EE in dogfights games, so there is not enough data to know how good they are yet. | |||
== General Strategy == | == General Strategy == | ||
Dogfights are known for brutal rush strategies, so be prepared for them. You might want to consider this if you think you can surprise an unsuspecting opponent. However, if you can, stay out of the fighting and let your opponents kill each other while you build up your economy. This is a good strategy for Crystals and Robots, who can protect their economic assets effectively with webs or large minefields. | Dogfights are known for brutal rush strategies, so be prepared for them. You might want to consider this if you think you can surprise an unsuspecting opponent. However, if you can, stay out of the fighting and let your opponents kill each other while you build up your economy. This is a good strategy for Crystals and Robots, who can protect their economic assets effectively with webs or large minefields. | ||
Because Dogfights are on such small maps, you do not need to upgrade to warp 8 or warp 9 engines. Build warp 7 or less. Distances are very small, and overdriving is not a huge loss of fuel. Most of your ships should be as cheap as possible, with warp 5 engines unless you know they will need more fuel efficiency (e.g. if towing another ship, or hauling lots of cargo long distances). Warp 6 engines are still very cheap, but cost twice the molybdenum than warp 5. Warp 7 costs the same moly as warp 6, but costs three times more MC ($106 vs $340 for 2 engines), so it's best to avoid warp 7 unless you really need it. | Because Dogfights are on such small maps, you do not need to upgrade to warp 8 or warp 9 engines. Build warp 7 or less. Distances are very small, and overdriving is not a huge loss of fuel. Most of your ships should be as cheap as possible, with warp 5 engines unless you know they will need more fuel efficiency (e.g. if towing another ship, or hauling lots of cargo long distances). Warp 6 engines are still very cheap, but cost twice the molybdenum than warp 5. Warp 7 costs the same moly as warp 6, but costs three times more MC ($106 vs $340 for 2 engines), so it's best to avoid warp 7 unless you really need it. Remember: you can overdrive whenever you need to! | ||
=== General economic tips === | |||
Tax your homeworld with a growth tax strategy (taxing down to 70 happiness in one turn, and letting happiness return to 100). Some players tax down to 40 happiness right away, which is OK but not usually necessary. Even in short games, population growth can be important. Tax as needed, whenever you want to build a ship. | |||
A very common mistake players make is to spend all their money very quickly, then have nothing left to build ships with. So plan your money and make sure you can always build a useful, cheap ship every turn (e.g. MDSF) instead of miss turns of building. | |||
Mining is very imporant in Dogfights, including mining small amounts on rocks. You will not always have a lot of planets under your control, so you want to spend some money on mines, even on planets with low amounts of reserves. For example, if you are Robots and really need duranium, and you find a planet with 500 duranium underground and 50% mining rate, you should build mines there. 500 is not a lot, but it's enough for 2 Automas, so you can really use it. Have an MDSF build enough for ~100 mines on the planet, to mine it out in about 10 turns. Building factories is not necessarily important, it's the mining operation that you want to start up ASAP. | |||
Time is of the essence when colonizing worlds, so use your turns efficiently. Make sure you make good use of each trip of your ships transporting colonists. Try to avoid losing ships, as each additional ship you have allows you to colonize planets nearby faster. You can only replace ships at 1 per turn, so do not waste them. | |||
=== Opening turns === | === Opening turns === | ||
Though it is tempting to move your MDSF far away on your first turn, that can get it killed or captured. It's safer to | Though it is tempting to move your MDSF far away on your first turn, that can get it killed or captured. It's safer to move your MDSF nearby to explore worlds suitable for colonization, looking for good natives, duranium or moly (esp. if you are Crystals). Most players will put up a minefield early to defend against attack. This also gives away their homeworld location. Consider what is more important to you: having a minefield up or being stealthy for a rush of an opponent. If you are Crystals, you should lay webs, unless your neighbours are also crystal. Crystals are not affected by the webs of other Crystal players, and so can rush them easily. Lizards can almost ignore minefields, as they can sustain minehits and still fight effectively with Lizard Crew Bonus. Traversing a minefield can take an enemy by surprise who thought they were safe behind the mines. | ||
=== Ship Builds === | |||
Have a plan for your first 5 turns of ship building. Plan for what resources will be required and what you can afford. You will usually want at least one battleship within the first few turns. You can do it with the help of a [http://goo.gl/16eSRG Ship Build Planner]. | |||
Generally, it is better to colonize planets with warships with large cargo space (Emerald, Ill Wind, Cat's Paw, Tranquility, LCC). However, there may be times when it makes sense to build an LDSF. This is when you need to transfer a lot of clans very fast to an excellent native planet. Usually it is not worth the duranium to build an LDSF, and they are weak and defenseless. | |||
=== Invade & Colonize === | |||
As a Dogfights commander, your grand scale maneuvers will factor in both military power and economics. Your colonizing freighters should follow close behind warships to develop an area soon after it's conquered. You generally want to try to colonize areas you know are clear of enemies before sending your vulnerable freighters to colonize them. | |||
You will want to go on "invade & colonize" attacks sometimes. This is where you send a big warship and its task force to conquer new worlds. When you conquer a new planet, begin exploiting the resources there right away. Your attack should be immediately followed by freighters ships carrying clans and supplies to colonize. Even if you only hold that planet for several turns, you can make use of its resources during that time if you are quick and organized. | |||
== Elimination of players / Endgame == | |||
Dogfights ia played with Fight or Fail, so players are eliminated when the number of planets they control is lower than the minimum to stay alive with FoF. Look at the scoreboard at the beginning of every turn to see what the minimum number of planets to control before FoF is. Check to see if any enemies have gone below the number, or if you are at risk of going below it. If you are, you must expand and get more planets before an enemy attack causes you to lose too many planets. Any player who falls below the FoF limit will have all their ships and starbases destroyed at the beginning of the next turn. | |||
=== Prepare for the final turn of the game. === | |||
The final turn is when the 5th-place player is eliminated. After this, there are only 4 players left. Those four players will be the winners and the game will end on the next turn. This means that those 4 players have one turn left to increase the amount of planets they control (and to reduce the number the enemy controls). This is arguably the most important turn of the game, as it will decide who will be in 1st place and who will come 2nd, 3rd or 4th. It is best if you have as many ships as possible for the final turn, to attack as many enemy planets as possible. | |||
== Race-specific strategies == | == Race-specific strategies == | ||
''This should not be considered an exhaustive list of strategies. There is more than one way you can win. But these are good general guidelines.'' | |||
'''Lizards''' | '''Lizards''' | ||
You will want probably 1 T-rex defending your planet early against a rush. Build LCCs to find planets with good natives to tax. Consider hissing a lot by building a 2nd starbase for hiss ships. | |||
<br>''Campaign'': Saurian Heavy has many beams, which can be useful sometimes, as sacrificial lambs vs. against carriers or for minesweeping. Also very good against | <br>''Campaign'': Saurian Heavy has many beams, which can be useful sometimes, as sacrificial lambs vs. against carriers or for minesweeping. Also very good against gunboats. | ||
'''Crystals''' | '''Crystals''' | ||
Try to defend an area with webs before enemies show up, to try to mark that territory as your own. Most players don't want to challenge the webs. This strategy allows you to defend many planets with minimal forces. | Try to defend an area with webs before enemies show up, to try to mark that territory as your own. Most players don't want to challenge the webs. This strategy allows you to defend many planets with minimal forces. Finding a molybdenum planet is essential to your future, if you want to build heavier ships like the Diamond Flame. Avoid heavy blasters to conserve moly until you have a good source. | ||
<br>''Campaign'': Get Imperial Topaz and Selenite. Sapphire might be useful in some situations. | <br>''Campaign'': Get Imperial Topaz and Selenite. Sapphire might be useful in some situations. | ||
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'''Rebels''' | '''Rebels''' | ||
You'll want to build a Rush to do your fighter production. You can use it to search for enemy homeworlds and RGA them. | You'll want to build a Rush to do your fighter production. You can use it to search for enemy homeworlds and RGA them. | ||
<br>''Campaign'': get Energy Defense Fields. EDFs will protect your planets from attack, which helps you hold more planets in the scoreboard. Iron Lady command ships are also helpful, as well as Shock Troops. | <br>''Campaign'': get Energy Defense Fields. EDFs will protect your planets from attack, which helps you hold more planets in the scoreboard. Iron Lady command ships are also helpful, as well as Shock Troops. | ||
'''Fascist''' | '''Fascist''' | ||
<br>''Campaign'': If you can afford them, get Saber Shield Generator, Plunder, Armored Ore Condenser. D9 Usva is also intersting, with a very large mass, big cargo and 10 beams, it can beat all medium ships easily, but at a high MC cost. | <br>''Campaign'': If you can afford them, get Saber Shield Generator, Plunder, Armored Ore Condenser. D9 Usva is also intersting, with a very large mass, big cargo and 10 beams, it can beat all medium ships easily, but at a high 600 MC hull cost. Ore Condenser can greatly increase your homeworld's duranium production, allowing you to build more [[Victorious_Class_Battleship | Vickies]]. | ||
'''Evil Empire''' | |||
Warp 9 SSD rushes are excellent (turn 3 over HW), and a clever EE commander might carry the day, if luck is on his side. They are a bit vulnerable with lack of torpers and relatively low fighter production. This can be made up for if you find really good natives, allowing you to purchase fighters for Gorbies. | |||
<br>''Campaign'': With Campaign advantages, EE is potentially much stronger, with very powerful Ru30 gunboats and increased fighter production. | |||
= Points = | |||
=== League Games === | |||
In League play, points are allocated to players as follows: | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ Points by rank | |||
|- | |||
! Rank | |||
! # of Points | |||
|- | |||
! 1st | |||
| 5 | |||
|- | |||
! 2nd | |||
| 4 | |||
|- | |||
! 3rd | |||
| 3 | |||
|- | |||
! 4th | |||
| 2 | |||
|- | |||
! 5th | |||
| 1 | |||
|- | |||
! 6th | |||
| 0 | |||
|} | |||
By comparison, a player wins 3 points for winning in a Blitz game. If you win a Dogfight or come in 2nd place, you will earn more points than Blitz for your short format League game. However, Dogfights are risky and it is safer to play 2v2 Blitz with a competent ally for 3 points each. | |||
= Tips & Tricks = | |||
* You can use the PB1 friendly code at your starbase to build low-ID# ships. | |||
= Differences between League and Talespin's tournaments = | |||
* League games have no ship limit, while Talespin uses PLS. (PLS makes it important to have multiple planets early game, or you can hit the ship limit). | |||
* Talespin awards "Medals" instead of points. The 1st place player gets 25 medals, while survivors (ranks 2, 3 & 4) each get 18. All players get 10 medals for participation if they play without dropping. |
Latest revision as of 23:59, 16 December 2021
Dogfights are a game format supported at Planets.nu and created by Talespin. It is a short-format game, usually taking 15-20 turns to complete. There are 8 players and 60 planets, with the "top 4 players advance" win condition. The format is quite popular. It was created by Talespin for his private tournament, but it was included in Planets.nu's League short-format games. In these games there is no diplomacy allowed, no communication between players, no renaming ships and no giving away ships. League Dogfight games only support Standard (as of July, 2020), but Talespin's private tournaments have used Campaign in its season 3 tournament.
Players can play any race, though in Talespin's tournaments there have been some restrictions. For season 2 (Standard), players could only play a race once. In season 3 (Campaign), players could play a single race twice. This was partly done because campaign advantages are expensive to unlock for many races.
Short Format Rules
Dogfights use the Short Format rules. This alters some races slightly for better balance on small maps.
How to Play Dogfights
Race Overview
To win in a competitive Dogfight, you should pick a strong race. The generally accepted strongest races (based on their win/loss ratio in tournaments) are:
- Lizards
- Crystals
- Robots
- Fascists
- Rebel
Other races can win, but they are less likely, and not favored for competitive play. They should generally be avoided.
One untested possibility for competitive gameplay (especially Campaign) is:
- Evil Empire (which takes first place sometimes)
However, not many players have played EE in dogfights games, so there is not enough data to know how good they are yet.
General Strategy
Dogfights are known for brutal rush strategies, so be prepared for them. You might want to consider this if you think you can surprise an unsuspecting opponent. However, if you can, stay out of the fighting and let your opponents kill each other while you build up your economy. This is a good strategy for Crystals and Robots, who can protect their economic assets effectively with webs or large minefields.
Because Dogfights are on such small maps, you do not need to upgrade to warp 8 or warp 9 engines. Build warp 7 or less. Distances are very small, and overdriving is not a huge loss of fuel. Most of your ships should be as cheap as possible, with warp 5 engines unless you know they will need more fuel efficiency (e.g. if towing another ship, or hauling lots of cargo long distances). Warp 6 engines are still very cheap, but cost twice the molybdenum than warp 5. Warp 7 costs the same moly as warp 6, but costs three times more MC ($106 vs $340 for 2 engines), so it's best to avoid warp 7 unless you really need it. Remember: you can overdrive whenever you need to!
General economic tips
Tax your homeworld with a growth tax strategy (taxing down to 70 happiness in one turn, and letting happiness return to 100). Some players tax down to 40 happiness right away, which is OK but not usually necessary. Even in short games, population growth can be important. Tax as needed, whenever you want to build a ship.
A very common mistake players make is to spend all their money very quickly, then have nothing left to build ships with. So plan your money and make sure you can always build a useful, cheap ship every turn (e.g. MDSF) instead of miss turns of building.
Mining is very imporant in Dogfights, including mining small amounts on rocks. You will not always have a lot of planets under your control, so you want to spend some money on mines, even on planets with low amounts of reserves. For example, if you are Robots and really need duranium, and you find a planet with 500 duranium underground and 50% mining rate, you should build mines there. 500 is not a lot, but it's enough for 2 Automas, so you can really use it. Have an MDSF build enough for ~100 mines on the planet, to mine it out in about 10 turns. Building factories is not necessarily important, it's the mining operation that you want to start up ASAP.
Time is of the essence when colonizing worlds, so use your turns efficiently. Make sure you make good use of each trip of your ships transporting colonists. Try to avoid losing ships, as each additional ship you have allows you to colonize planets nearby faster. You can only replace ships at 1 per turn, so do not waste them.
Opening turns
Though it is tempting to move your MDSF far away on your first turn, that can get it killed or captured. It's safer to move your MDSF nearby to explore worlds suitable for colonization, looking for good natives, duranium or moly (esp. if you are Crystals). Most players will put up a minefield early to defend against attack. This also gives away their homeworld location. Consider what is more important to you: having a minefield up or being stealthy for a rush of an opponent. If you are Crystals, you should lay webs, unless your neighbours are also crystal. Crystals are not affected by the webs of other Crystal players, and so can rush them easily. Lizards can almost ignore minefields, as they can sustain minehits and still fight effectively with Lizard Crew Bonus. Traversing a minefield can take an enemy by surprise who thought they were safe behind the mines.
Ship Builds
Have a plan for your first 5 turns of ship building. Plan for what resources will be required and what you can afford. You will usually want at least one battleship within the first few turns. You can do it with the help of a Ship Build Planner.
Generally, it is better to colonize planets with warships with large cargo space (Emerald, Ill Wind, Cat's Paw, Tranquility, LCC). However, there may be times when it makes sense to build an LDSF. This is when you need to transfer a lot of clans very fast to an excellent native planet. Usually it is not worth the duranium to build an LDSF, and they are weak and defenseless.
Invade & Colonize
As a Dogfights commander, your grand scale maneuvers will factor in both military power and economics. Your colonizing freighters should follow close behind warships to develop an area soon after it's conquered. You generally want to try to colonize areas you know are clear of enemies before sending your vulnerable freighters to colonize them.
You will want to go on "invade & colonize" attacks sometimes. This is where you send a big warship and its task force to conquer new worlds. When you conquer a new planet, begin exploiting the resources there right away. Your attack should be immediately followed by freighters ships carrying clans and supplies to colonize. Even if you only hold that planet for several turns, you can make use of its resources during that time if you are quick and organized.
Elimination of players / Endgame
Dogfights ia played with Fight or Fail, so players are eliminated when the number of planets they control is lower than the minimum to stay alive with FoF. Look at the scoreboard at the beginning of every turn to see what the minimum number of planets to control before FoF is. Check to see if any enemies have gone below the number, or if you are at risk of going below it. If you are, you must expand and get more planets before an enemy attack causes you to lose too many planets. Any player who falls below the FoF limit will have all their ships and starbases destroyed at the beginning of the next turn.
Prepare for the final turn of the game.
The final turn is when the 5th-place player is eliminated. After this, there are only 4 players left. Those four players will be the winners and the game will end on the next turn. This means that those 4 players have one turn left to increase the amount of planets they control (and to reduce the number the enemy controls). This is arguably the most important turn of the game, as it will decide who will be in 1st place and who will come 2nd, 3rd or 4th. It is best if you have as many ships as possible for the final turn, to attack as many enemy planets as possible.
Race-specific strategies
This should not be considered an exhaustive list of strategies. There is more than one way you can win. But these are good general guidelines.
Lizards
You will want probably 1 T-rex defending your planet early against a rush. Build LCCs to find planets with good natives to tax. Consider hissing a lot by building a 2nd starbase for hiss ships.
Campaign: Saurian Heavy has many beams, which can be useful sometimes, as sacrificial lambs vs. against carriers or for minesweeping. Also very good against gunboats.
Crystals
Try to defend an area with webs before enemies show up, to try to mark that territory as your own. Most players don't want to challenge the webs. This strategy allows you to defend many planets with minimal forces. Finding a molybdenum planet is essential to your future, if you want to build heavier ships like the Diamond Flame. Avoid heavy blasters to conserve moly until you have a good source.
Campaign: Get Imperial Topaz and Selenite. Sapphire might be useful in some situations.
Robots
Build a Cat's paw and then an Automa for self-defense and fighter production. (Avoid Q Tankers if you can, since they produce only 12 fighters per turn). You might want to keep fighers on board the Automa, in case of an ambush. Instrumentalities are not good at fighter production, with their 80 cargo vs Automa's 200, even though Automas cost the same duranium as instrus.
Campaign: Get Fortress for defense against ground attack.
Rebels
You'll want to build a Rush to do your fighter production. You can use it to search for enemy homeworlds and RGA them.
Campaign: get Energy Defense Fields. EDFs will protect your planets from attack, which helps you hold more planets in the scoreboard. Iron Lady command ships are also helpful, as well as Shock Troops.
Fascist
Campaign: If you can afford them, get Saber Shield Generator, Plunder, Armored Ore Condenser. D9 Usva is also intersting, with a very large mass, big cargo and 10 beams, it can beat all medium ships easily, but at a high 600 MC hull cost. Ore Condenser can greatly increase your homeworld's duranium production, allowing you to build more Vickies.
Evil Empire
Warp 9 SSD rushes are excellent (turn 3 over HW), and a clever EE commander might carry the day, if luck is on his side. They are a bit vulnerable with lack of torpers and relatively low fighter production. This can be made up for if you find really good natives, allowing you to purchase fighters for Gorbies.
Campaign: With Campaign advantages, EE is potentially much stronger, with very powerful Ru30 gunboats and increased fighter production.
Points
League Games
In League play, points are allocated to players as follows:
Rank | # of Points |
---|---|
1st | 5 |
2nd | 4 |
3rd | 3 |
4th | 2 |
5th | 1 |
6th | 0 |
By comparison, a player wins 3 points for winning in a Blitz game. If you win a Dogfight or come in 2nd place, you will earn more points than Blitz for your short format League game. However, Dogfights are risky and it is safer to play 2v2 Blitz with a competent ally for 3 points each.
Tips & Tricks
- You can use the PB1 friendly code at your starbase to build low-ID# ships.
Differences between League and Talespin's tournaments
- League games have no ship limit, while Talespin uses PLS. (PLS makes it important to have multiple planets early game, or you can hit the ship limit).
- Talespin awards "Medals" instead of points. The 1st place player gets 25 medals, while survivors (ranks 2, 3 & 4) each get 18. All players get 10 medals for participation if they play without dropping.